tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12674755.post7645581977711702354..comments2023-11-22T04:10:49.266-05:00Comments on Dispatches from Zembla: Beckett on ProustAlokhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12947383354732747209noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12674755.post-10632400759802921702006-10-20T14:48:00.000-05:002006-10-20T14:48:00.000-05:00I have read some introductions, essays and I am va...I have read some introductions, essays and I am vaguely familiar with the basics... "idealism", "thing-in-itself", ontology, phenomenology etc but yes if you don't understand these things you can only skim the surface of giants like Proust, Mann, Kafka or others. <br /><br />I am trying and I hope one day I will be wiser!Alokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12947383354732747209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12674755.post-43302716743694892712006-10-20T14:41:00.000-05:002006-10-20T14:41:00.000-05:00Also, how does one read continental literature wit...Also, how does one read continental literature without reading continental philosophy? I think my understanding of the literature of the period grew enormously when I understood the philosophical context it came out of. you really should try it:)Aishwaryahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12871059152281065272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12674755.post-51367023177514393322006-10-20T14:38:00.000-05:002006-10-20T14:38:00.000-05:00The Duthuis dialogues! I love those.:)The Duthuis dialogues! I love those.:)Aishwaryahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12871059152281065272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12674755.post-85422463849084454792006-10-20T11:11:00.000-05:002006-10-20T11:11:00.000-05:00hehe, I was joking... :)
interesting how you des...hehe, I was joking... :) <br /><br />interesting how you describe your Sartre experience. It's very, umm... "poetic" :)Alokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12947383354732747209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12674755.post-38703197256907704192006-10-20T10:47:00.000-05:002006-10-20T10:47:00.000-05:00Alok
I said I struggled enough to finish two chapt...Alok<br />I said I struggled enough to finish two chapters of Sartre's Philosophy...trust me,since the beginning, it was a trail on those slippery rocks..I slip, fall down, look at those bruises with teary eyes, get up, fix my grip over those slots n start walking again....The Encounter with Nothingness was relatively an effortless read, thanks to that Peter at Cafe example...<br />I read thinkers, n that does not mean that my learnings to be reflected in my poems or reflections...no, then I fall short of those xpectations...JAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12674755.post-66252646242422236572006-10-20T09:27:00.000-05:002006-10-20T09:27:00.000-05:00cat: I have already pushed Being and Time on the t...cat: I have already pushed Being and Time on the to-read stack!<br /><br />jyothsna: wow, so you have read Sartre? surprised and impressed. Now I have to read your poems again :)<br /><br />madhur: I love those three philosophers too. After the ancient Greeks, they are my favourite thinkers! I have so far managed to read only essays, short introductions and biographical books about them. The primary texts still remain inaccessible. <br /><br />"ens causa sui." ? What's that?Alokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12947383354732747209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12674755.post-45951399274237247082006-10-20T04:29:00.000-05:002006-10-20T04:29:00.000-05:00ens causa sui.ens causa sui.Mistral Noirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01289514290706814088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12674755.post-16150393256563701752006-10-20T03:42:00.000-05:002006-10-20T03:42:00.000-05:00oh i just love continental philie, the critics of ...oh i just love continental philie, the critics of the german idealism being my favourites, schopenhauer, nietzsche, kierkegaard, also sarte and yes henri bergson, from whom proust borrows the philosophy of time ,memory and identity, and alok, wiki is good enough, most original texts of contie philie are written in an obscure language, jacques lacan himself admitted that obscurity gives the 'text' certain ammount of credibility and makes it esoteric, a theorist has no other form of capital to gain but to make his theory obscure and intelligible to a certain minority, i prefer reading essays on thinkers, or multiple reflections/interpretation of original texts, they are more edifying, also wiki, because the concepts explained are to be understood in abstract, its like reading poetry, not prose, wiki is not facts, wiki is abstraction.Mistral Noirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01289514290706814088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12674755.post-39459390954912670532006-10-20T02:36:00.000-05:002006-10-20T02:36:00.000-05:00umm..struggling with Sartre's Being and Nothingnes...umm..struggling with Sartre's Being and Nothingness..I could relate self to that situation and embrace it wholeheartedly... <br />Nothing is the cause of consciousness, and that consciousness is the cause of its own way of being. so that means, being is empty a shell, and gains a fuller body or pure format when consciousness is being derived from it? Consciousness emerges supported by a being which is not itself... <br />Heidegger's view always takes a support of "Being-in-the-world"..there's always a concrete format from which the process of questioning and redefining the being starts<br />*I could be wrong in my interpretation,but I swallowed the intrusive criticism much before I could put forth my point of view by leaving my ignorance bare to the readers*--Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12674755.post-6518974638537412482006-10-19T23:44:00.000-05:002006-10-19T23:44:00.000-05:00That's a common misapprehension, Heidegger is not ...That's a common misapprehension, Heidegger is not difficult to read. And he does everything from scratch, so knowing the history of Continental philosophy is certainly not a prerequisite...Cheshire Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07463645065346922684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12674755.post-41309885588600491532006-10-19T20:41:00.000-05:002006-10-19T20:41:00.000-05:00Wow! that's a surprise. I had a very different ima...Wow! that's a surprise. I had a very different image of Heidegger and his philosophy in my mind. Humourless, obscure and a Nazi-sympathiser!! The problem is that I don't even have a good basic understanding of Continental philosophy and its background. I feel lost in these philosophy books.<br /><br />In fact Beckett mentions Being and Time many times together in the Proust book too. I think he wrote this book before Heidegger wrote Being and Time.Alokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12947383354732747209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12674755.post-38560052332924672292006-10-19T20:33:00.000-05:002006-10-19T20:33:00.000-05:00Heidegger's "Being and Time" is a great starting p...Heidegger's "Being and Time" is a great starting point. It's very readable, more compelling than any novel. I've heard it's somewhat compromised by translation, though, but am in no position to judge.Cheshire Cathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07463645065346922684noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12674755.post-30927507253330953572006-10-19T18:50:00.000-05:002006-10-19T18:50:00.000-05:00I haven't yet tried to go near that book. :)
It i...I haven't yet tried to go near that book. :)<br /><br />It is not just being, there is also "becoming" and how these two are related to "Time" and "nothingness."<br /><br />Wiki is good for facts, to understand these things wiki is not good enough...Alokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12947383354732747209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12674755.post-91981955108528908422006-10-19T16:49:00.000-05:002006-10-19T16:49:00.000-05:00The word Being takes me on a Proustian excursion ....The word Being takes me on a Proustian excursion ...<br /><br />Being...reminds me of the time when we struggled with Sartre's Being and Nothingness (and I am sure you will not embarass me by asking much many pages.. err.. words I managed to read )<br /><br />Nowadays, you have <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Being">wikipedia</a>.readerswordshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05536082441634566406noreply@blogger.com